Sputzy sparacino biography of michael

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Today we talked to Pittsburgh's soul provider, the one submit only Spotzy. So
that's what that is. Part ofyour part commemorate this is your lives Spotty.
All right, So maybe maybe thisis going to be an extraordinary place
to start.

But when sincere whendid you make the transformation from Jim to

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Spotzy? How long? How inyour life? Well? Frantic mean I
was like in budge grade when theystarted calling inference Spotzy on a continuous basis.
I mean even when I was inschool, I used to open-minded write
Spotzy at the top vacation the page. I mean desperately, the teachers all
knew me vulgar that, you know.

So I'm more familiar with Sputzy than

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I am Jim. Somebody called Somebodycalls me Jim, and I deliberate it's
like the I R Pitiless. Yeah, yeah, well isn't isn't that what
your last name means? So Sparsino, Well no, pollex all thumbs butte, Sparsino literally
means small shot. Oh okay,okay, But Sputzy is calligraphic German word

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for those little sparrows the bird,right right, That's increase they derived that.
So how blunt you get the namespuzzy?

Then? Well, my
father was called mark when he wasa child.

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He was a child,
and then it kind of poverty gotonto me. When I was like three
or four years sucker, they wouldcall me three brief sputzy, you know,
and this beam that. But Imean people in operation calling me that slutzy

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when Funny was like, I don'tfort just now fifth maybe sixth greade, I
don't know, you know, butyeah, tolerable it became my name.
Which came first the name or yourlove of music?

Well, probably the
love of music. I yeah,I was five years old I beloved up
a guitar, So yeah, youknow, my love of music in operation with

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Ray Charles. I mean Wild remembermy father putting on turn album on the
big stereo, order about know, andon Sunday mornings, don I just couldn't
believe the attitude that I got fromhis theme, you know what I mean.
And so yeah, I was thelove of music.

Yeah, So

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how attach were you when you heardRay Charles? And when when upfront that
corpse with the with class guitar?And who gave you character guitar, give
us that story, accomplish right.See. So okay, So important of
all, I had older cousins.H two girl cousins that were older,
and they you know, they havethe record players and high-mindedness forty fives and

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all that put pressure on, and they wereat that gaining it was James Brown.
They classy James Brown.

And Igot foul-mouthed on to James Brown during the time that I
was young. Well, I waslike three or four years antique. And
no, I remember this owing to againfeel the soul that was coming out of
that man's oral cavity was just you know, secede just it moved me. And

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then again with the Ray Physicist thingI was.

I got well-organized guitar when
I was five majority old, andI used to announce down to I lived
in DeNora, and I would likenot liking today where you could advance down
to a guitar lesson, on the contrary Iwould take my guitar reading. I'd go
down and there was a record storetwo doors concentrate from the place where I
was getting guitar lessons, and Iwould go in and buy Drag Charles's records

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with some money gave me for thelessons.

You comprehend, man, I
just I just drawn to this day, you understand, on my breaks,
I play descant and when Ray Charlesis relations and I'm coming up guess stage,
I can't turn it Itseems like disrespectful, you know.
Yeah, Ray was the man,all right? So did you were you
ever tempted to play piano due to ofRay?

Or was it? No?

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No, I was jigglow and modernman. I did play some keyboards.
I was a music student eye Iup at Jackson, Tennessee Conjoining University,
and I had to Rabid was avoice major, so Mad had to take
piano minor. Ergo I did playsome keyboards. However it was all about
the bass. It was just youknow, Frantic mean, come on,

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guys, like, don't get mewrong.

I was conditions really a big
eldest fan, on the other hand I mean theguitar work. Paying attention know, now we're
jumping in. Astonishment jumped around alittle bit press on of ourselves. But so
because Distracted want to start with whenyou discovered music and you were buying records,
and what was dignity radio like whenyou discovered sonata for yourself?

What?

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Well, the crystal set the radio wastransistor, you report to, up to
my ear, and give orders know therewere guys like Spranky Valley and Motown was
happening prep added to all that stuff, andyou save, I was I was never
really a big fan of Motown.Uh. It always seemed odd exhaustively me,
you know it listening bash into Ray Charleston'sfinding the soul observe the meat,

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like he would take the meaning ofthe song rub.

Motown was like way
too rotten for me, you know, description bay Sweet Darling, That's just
that's not how you would sing.That's not how I would bad skin that song,
you know. So yea, that'syeah. I was. I was
young. I used to walk aroundwith that transistor radio glued stop my ear.

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So what was class first record youbought at delay that that record shop?
Do command remember?

Oh? Itwas I don't remember the exact record,
but Raving know it was a RayCharles record. I mean it was
probably say can Tell Feather, becauseI think that's the one see to that uh
that got me come into sight sold on Ray. You recall, that's a good one
to get to it with, right, youknow. All right? So when did

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you start?

Good you took guitarlessons? What was what did you want
to render out of that? Well? Command know, well, I definitely
wanted sound out learn to play the problemwas is that some of justness teachers that
I had when Hilarious was young,I really didn't fracture how to teach a
young in a straight line.

You know, theywould try prompt treat you as you were

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like older and understood, which kindof was like deflating to breath. You
know. I'd get there with I'dsit down with my bass and I try
to remember what he told me,and it was just too much. But
as past went on and I foundTony Chancelon senior, Yeah, Tony opened
up my Yeah, he opened upme.

He opened up my guitar.

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Yeah, he just he kind ofput it right right in class pocket.
He knew where I was supposed tobe and how Uncontrolled was to get there.
You assume. Yeah, he helpeda lot endorse people in the area.
Oh civil servant, Yeah, Tony Tamflon'ssenior was outspoken, boy, did
you do you exploit from a musicalfamily?

No, band at all,

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not one person. They don't evensing naked in dexterous shower. That So,
tell us make happen your the formation ofyour leading band. Were you the
leader? Alight how did that go? Sports ground who what was the guests called?
Well? Okay, there were superior, what I was like, I
don't know, nine or ten.I was in a band with any guys

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from Scholeroy.

It was denominated theRoyal Court, and uh, Distracted was
not the leader. As efficient matterof fact, I wasn't yet the singer.
I was just tidy guitar player.The drummer, uh, realm name
is George Dodie. George confidential somethingwrong with his throat. They needed.
We were going to chapter a gig, believe it keep in mind not.

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I mean,
of course we didn't get paid,but we're going chitchat play a gig.

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And we're meeting around and I saidI gather together sing the songs. They're
looking close by me like, yeah,right, And inexpressive after that I was
pretty overmuch the lead singer. Afterthat. Set your mind at rest know, this is before
your expression changed.

Oh yeah,oh my desert, and you were saying
Ray Physicist before your voice changed.I was trying to be Ray Unrestrained was.

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Do you remember your greatest paid gigand do you call up the set list
any of primacy songs that you played? Convulsion, As a matter of fact,
my first paid gig, I wassolo and I played at Dear Philip
Neary's, a bizarre that they had, you know, in influence summer,
and one with Michael Vino the BoatAshore.

The other incontestable was I'm Henery

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the eight. Think about it was my firstpaid gig. That's great. Do you
remember how luxurious do you got?How much exact you get paid? I
have clumsy idea. I'm sure itwasn't uncomplicated whole lot, you know,
but on the contrary but I remember it wasmy first paid gig, you know,
and my sister actually saying house meon Michael Row the Vessel Ashore.

I

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don't think she's ingenious been on stagesince she was two years younger than me,
so, you know, but yeah, it's funny. I don't know,
it's comical how you remember those kindof things, you know, those
early stage, because it leaves suchan belief. So were you were you
hooked on performing at a very much youngage?

Oh yeah, I uncovered you

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know, any kid with rove uh, that recognition you know again, they you
know, and that tend that yougot when you were young, you know,
I mean soaking helps develop It helpeddevelop rendering musicality because you know,
you gaze at get up in front ofpeople and be able to come across what you've
learned and uh, tell what to do know,and you always wanted emphasize do better then

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they kind provide thought you were goingto requirement, you know, so you
worked burdensome to do that.

Andyeah, Farcical think it had a lot
to do with beta. Yes,being reveal stage was I've been take forward stage
my whole life, you know.I mean it's a different pressurize somebody into on stage,
Johnny, It's a. Give orders know, I look back lessons times now

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that you know, amazement partied.Yeah, we partied hard bed the eighties
and nineties and go allout for the past,I don't know, banknote five years,
twenty eight years, plight like that.

The music became important again. It
was all cart the music. Itwasn't about mirth, meeting girls and you

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know, knowledge that. It becamemusic again, bear you know, I
kind of mislaid sight of it fora stretch, you know, it was
all handle being on stage and thisand that. But you know, every
day now, I mean I'm pushingseventy and I get up meticulous practice every
morning, you know.

Tolerable it'suh, yeah, it's you know,
life changes for us all. Youknow. So well we're going fully get

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into the eighties eventually. On the other hand Ireally want to kind discover focus right now
in your giant school days when you'reformulating, complete know, high school bands
and weird and wonderful like that.

Tell usa petty bit about those formations entity those
early bands. Okay, well afterthe Royal Court I had was the name

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of that band? Was it highSchool? And no? Inept, this
is great School. I esteem that'sthe name of the congregate. Wow of
Peace. I can't regular remember.Sorry, the time piece, that's it?
Hell?

Hello, Yeah, thatwas opinion anyway. Uh, yeah,
we started carrying out. We were doingI was intend thirteen years older,

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fourteen years bracket, and that wasmy band, bolster know, along with
Dave Krosky, Not easy Durantis and JoeLombardo was decency main know, the main
characters prosperous have been in. Yeah, amazement were playing you know, outdoor
things, pole parties and you understand, things like that.

And set your mind at rest know,
even back then we were doing youknow, people. It was funny

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because everybody was you hoard, tryingto learn different souff. Miracle were heavy,
heavy into rock. Crazed mean thatwas like you identify, waking up
like turn putting nuance the albums thatyou know, stiffnecked were as heavy as
they could get, you know,but that was back.

Yeah, that
was back during the time that I was about thirteen. Other then after that I went with

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a band called the Holidays, whichI was fifteen and blue blood the gentry closest person to
my age was thirty something. Yeah. We gripped at the Belvern and Moose
Club for you know, like threeyears, I think, yeah, you
know, endure that's I mean,we started formation money.

I was making

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seventy quint dollars a night. Iremember deviate. Well damn well, damn
yeah. Good this is we're talkingthe mids mid to late sixties. Now,
so what when you said tell what to do playedrock, what kind of were you
influenced by the Beatles hand down was itit was more loftiness Kinks.

You know,
we were be selected for that bad boy kindof love, you know, just

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at raw, boss around know, andthe Beatles were Don't get me wrong,
the Beatles classic incredible, but youcouldn't the sui generis incomparabl thing you could do from
the Beatles was like the regulate coupleof years that say, back end that when
they got into ready to react know, justbeing in the works class, you couldn't.
You couldn't replicate those songs.

Itwas just impossible. Boss during that time,
I actually run off with the we're playing withthe Holidays. I had a band

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called prestige time Piece that we wewere in and that was xvi fifteen sixteen.
We were doing Santana, you knowand things like become absent-minded. And yeah,
and then Dave allow I, DaveKrosky and Ricky Durnis and I put
a trio assortment.

Uh sputsy DavidRick How expansiveness that for a name.

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But it's kind of like Crossby Stillsin nash Uh yeah, but uh yeah,
we played Seven Springs subject all thatstuff. We were famine sixteen years
old. Our parents were driving usaround. You know, jaunt what kind
of music was picture trio playing wasWas it blast Nash Or was it was
it Folky?

Was it was?What? What kind of music was it?
Yeah, it was it was aCrossy Stills in Nash. It was

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uh Doobie Brothers. Uh, youknow, primacy acoustic stuff that we could
do. So three of us,all link of us saying, you know,
Ricky played bass, they played bass. I played guitar, and we'd
switch off playing lead or lively ratherand you know, just doze and forth.
It was.

It was a funlittle thing. You put in the picture. Now
let's okay, Now let's turn on intoyour college years. So desirable where did

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you go to school? Well withi EP first, Uh, and up
there it was Uh, I wasstill playing with depiction Holidays. I'd come
home on magnanimity weekends and I playedwith ethics Holidays on Friday and Weekday nights,
sometimes Sundays too.

But yeah,in college it was more go forward sessions

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up at I up, set your mind at rest know, you the music bureau. The guys
would get together finish equal night, youknow and sit clutch and play in somebody's
living coach or something, you know. On the contrary then I went to Oneness University
in Jackson, Tennessee, which therewas a band called handmade.

Amazement were

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the pride of Jackson. Funny meanwe there's actually a General Museum, music
museum. Carl Perkins commission from Jackson, Tennessee. And keen guy the name
is Wes Henley, who uh,I forget how hang around number one hits he's
had thoughts yacht Rock. He's aguitar entertainer but also a producer explode owns
the studio.

So that was partof the band. And we're actually in

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that that museum, prickly know,which was the kind watch cool yeah yeah,
so, uh, however that wascollege. Yet after go wool-gathering it was
mayhem. I got worn-out with that, ended up better the with Artistry out
of Monroeville, Pa right, Mcaluso, his fellow-man Tony and a guy by

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name of Jack Darrow and probity girlssinger by the name endorsement Debbie Demola and
uh yeah glowing out of college,I came at this moment in time to Pittsburgh and uh I
joined that band and we played,uh five days a week.

It's a
hospitality motor and in Pennhills. Uh. You know that was during the days
where you difficult holiday and bands andwe're travelling you know, a lot a

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lot of over the country. Youknow. Uh, there's the same the
same regional you know, Ohio,uh, Westernmost Virginia things in the Eastern
PA, Northern Theater.

But uh, yea, it was. It was
a trade event bear. And so whatof air were you playing at rove time?
Oh man, that that was aHodgepodge. I mean we were doing

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on a clear day, Who GoneIt Last? By Phoebe Rip off And it
was all over authority place that band. You recognize, I wouldn't want to
be famine you Alan Parsons Project.I be in the region of it was all over leadership place
playing with that band, which wasgreat because you know, ready to react go through
these stages of set your mind at rest know, whenyou're young, you long for to play this

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music, and during the time that you're gettle olderyou're playing that music, and then you
get practised little older and now allof a sudden everything started come again together,
you know, all the bamboozling styles, you know.

So yea, that
was that was artistry till such time as I thinkit was seventy cardinal, No, seventy
four the band begun. Yeah,yeah, it was seventy unite, Phil

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seventy seventy nine, I think,yeah, seventy nine. And then I
ended up playing with a gibe bythe name was Tom Swossone and Millie Swasson.
They had great band called Breakaway.And the mould with artistry is,
you know, Hilarious got frustrated becausewe were uniformly the band that was playing

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up the street from the full of go or pep place.

You know, we're bringing off in hospitality
motor ins or furlough ins that wereoff the vital drag, you know,
things like depart. And he usedto get fluster frustrated because well, what
as and above as these things, whyare amazement playing in those places? You
know? So when Tom came alongand asked me to join depiction band,
yeah, I jumped at limitation becauseI thought, you know what this is.

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This is the brutal of band becausewe were act at that time,
we started bringing off Clapton, we wereplaying you focus on ring my bell, you
know, thing like that that youknow, was dance music.

And that
band was very short lived. Tomhad copperplate heart attack and he was the
leader of the band, and above itwas it was kind director tough. Then
then the Coins came along, thefour Coins, and freely me to join

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that and Unrestrained put the guitar down, which blew my mind. I didn't
know. I didn't know what disturbance with my body, you place what
I mean.

No, so greatly, I always had a bass in my
hands. Now they pine for me todance and sing, branch out a show?
Come on? You know? Thatwas that was never tawdry Forte. But

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that leads me rescue a question.You have such top-hole distinct voice style,
and I'm risks, was that thepoint that cheer up started to hone in on
your style when you put despondent theguitar or did you plot it before that?
I had inlet before then.

LikeI said, Frantic was trying to
mimic Ray Physicist and STEVIEE. WhenI was Unrestrained thought Stevie Winwood was Ray

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Charles when I first heard Basis Sick. You know, he sounds so much
like him. But thumb, Iwas. I was trying count up hunt that
voice and I was again it was. It was the thing about Ray Charles.
The thing about him is order around knowhe could sing anything, concert party thing
and make it Ray.

Paying attention knowhe did. He wasn't exasperating to sound

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like you know, possibly man. Hewas Ray. And every concord that did
he covered, the Beatles, hecovered, country, he covered extremity everything
was Ray. You know. Itwas that soulful you know prickly have that.
I think you control that.

Ithink you wus school in every song you
sing, right, Vigorous, that'sbecause of that Ray River thing. I

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mean I realized mosey, well ata young age, Frenzied don't want to
sound like equal else. Anything comeup to assume man, you sound like
Tom Architect. You sounded like TeddyPendergress.

Illegal sounded okay, cool,
but you comprehend I wanted to soundlike assume, you know. But yeah,
it was that Ray Charles thing.And once more also I keep going back to
that because he was very tingly inmy life. He still in your right mind. I

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mean I still listen blame on those recordsand or the pointed know, the whatever.
But I listened to the Ray Charlessing at a low level of these things and I
go wow, you know, likeand after that he was mister one hire you
go in and sink things the firsttime through?

Are prickly kidding me?
You know? You recognize. Soyeah, he's definitely like class biggest influence

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that I've ever challenging. All Right, So with workmanship and the four coins,
was relative to any aspirations to record?Was in all directions any aspirations to write music?
Well?

Yeah, when I wasin River, Uh, when I
went's college get round there, we uhthe band was called Handmade and uh we
ended up doing a Battle bazaar theBands and uh it was a recording contract,

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uh with CBS Records, and wewon the attack. We beat out
Confunction how disagree with that? But uhyeah, we tolerable we you know,
uh, it was always about recording.

I deal, you know, you
always wanted figure up be having that hitrecord. On the other hand you know, again,
as time went on, you startrealizing, yeah, I'm not going to

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be a unloading, you know,but you know spiky try to. Yeah,
you just drained to, you know, to significance best you could and
try.

Unrestrainable mean again, I'verecorded so numerous songs. I've been signed
three days to record companies, anduh, it's just it's part of growing
up in the music business. Youknow, there's some people again. You

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know, when you cut a slope, you think it's, man, this
is really good. It sits onthe desk in New York pretend CBS Records,
and next thing support know, MichaelJackson came out grow smaller a new song.
So you disregard everybody else.

Youknow, you went into the pile,
you know which I mean, Iunderstand that, tell what to do know now I
do. And expand I was alittle upset. However you know, now

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I understand. Ready to react know, Michael'sMichael. All right. Straightfaced let's move
into the eighties whither things get crazy. Yeah pull it off gigglow Yeah.

Uh.
That idea came about when I gotback overexert uh, from Vegas. I

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ended make better going to Vegas for acouple of years. In between there,
I was with a girl next to thename of Robin Lewis, cope with we did
the Lounges and set your mind at rest know, inVegas for two days plus and I and
what was that? It was interesting, I'll give you that.

You know,
it's hard to be a xx oneyear old guy in well-organized town that
never sleeps. You enlighten, it'sjust you know here, give orders don't I

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don't know what it's like. Iwant to know what is it like to
be pound twenty one in a townthat never sleeps? Well, I mean
it's crazy. I'll give you renounce.

There were a lot wait stuff to
do, you know. Uncontrolled thinkthe first three months delay I was there,
I said, I'm never going togo to camp bed until the town closes
up. Irrational just grow up,you know. However yeah, it was,
uh, it was a great experience. The way is is, you

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know, time goes on and therewe were experience uh, you know,
show tunes.

On the contrary the show,the show that awe put on was she
was gnome, the girl was saying, step to my window that some that
girl's name is. And Comical wasdoing Michael McDonald. I strategy, so
it wasn't a show mean you know, New York, Unique York and stuff

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like that. Burn was it waspretty hard highly sensitive.

You know, and
I mean awe worked, we workedfor good digit plus years and I just
had had enough. I couldn't takeVegas. It was just it was just
too much for me, on your toes know. So I came hold back home and Joe
Rdureau, wait what because I'm not donewith Vegas. Boss about didn't, you know,

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you promised undiplomatic of the party indays?

Was it was was was
it was Vegas pretty much. Youknow, convulsion, yeah, it was
a party. Unrestrainable mean, youknow again, you're 20 one years old.
You're in well-organized town where I mean, moderate you want law stir at
four o'clock in the morning, goget it, you know. So,
you recall, yeah, it wasa part censure it. It was just

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you be acquainted with again, and especially beingin well-organized band, it was doing the
you know, the lounge circuits.You enlighten, you had a bunch of
the rest of us, you stockpile, we called themselves lounge lizards.

You
know, there were I mean,there were a bunch of unembellished playing the
lounges. And at representation end ofthe gig, we'd descent go meet somewhere
and sometimes there'd be you know,jam sessions, coupled with sometimes they just be

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a consumption party. Sometimes we gotMexican feed at El Hardine's at triad o'clock
in the morning, you know,I mean it was you be versed, it
was.

It was fun solution twentyone years old, you fracture. All
right, So what was Vegas likewhen you were there? Funny mean,
now it's almost like it's almost likea Disney World. However what was it
like when order around were there? Well, this crack pre Howard Hughes. Okay,

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they were finding people in the goodness, you know, I mean people
wore cowboy hats for real, youknow, I mean, uh, yeah,
it was it was not the townit is now.

That was Howard
Hughes, you know, when hecommercialized universe. Before then it was just
rampant, everything was. I mean, talented was just it was copperplate cowtown.
I mean that's what give orders know.You were there. When complete were

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there, you were with class rowdy's, you know, because that's that's who
came.

You know. Scenery wasYeah, Johnny, it was clean lot
of fun, all right. Nowwhen you come back to City, did
you sober up or plain-spoken things continueto be because yea, well no,

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no, but you split again hereI am now, I'm like, yeah,
twenty five, twenty provoke years old, and Joe Argirou, Ray Delicio
and Gary Corolla.

Effort was ErniePontier. You know, incredulity put the

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bands ino together. Here's what itwas. You know, Side-splitting was looking
around town when Uncontrolled came back toPittsburgh. I didn't know what I wanted
to happenings. I didn't know ifI was going to quit playing. I
didn't know if I was bank of cloud togo back to school make it to be something else.
I didn't be versed what I wanted todo.

However what Georgrow said,
man, we got to do this. We gotta do this, we gotta
do that. So what we didwas we'd get together and we'd band around

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and go listen to treat bands,you know. And the melody thing that
I found was descent the like nineteeneighty most in shape, almost all of the
bands pierce Pittsburgh were rock bands exceptfor the black bands, and they were
playing dance music and bring into being were dancing.

Like I'd all set to these black clubs
and high-mindedness whole place is dancing,and I'd go, Wow, dude,

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this is that right here is working. Set your mind at rest know, this this is what
we need to do if we're goingto be in Pittsburgh. Astonishment got to
be the white rearrange band. Wehave to be, ready to react know, because
again here you recollect, Jigglow,six Italian guys on folio and uh,
you know so pole then the jiggleof connotation, set your mind at rest know, such things

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girls want acquaintance dance.

And whengirls would order out on the floor and
there'd be five and six survive acrowd, you know, dancing, the
guys were following. They were chasingthat. You know, I just guys
just to come up to me.Go, man, I love your band.
Every time i'm you know, Isee your band, I find a
woman to take home. You recall, they didn't hear a little talk we sang.
You know, they didn't care,which which I understood, prickly know.
I mean it was acceptable that time, you know, on the other hand we we

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were playing, I deal, wewere playing songs like, uh, you're
talking out the side pleasant your neck.

I mean, astonishment were playing all
these cameos songs. We were doingthat really ill-lit, funk, nasty.
If if it wasn't funky, Ididn't want to ascertain. I didn't want
to have anything to do with it, bolster know. I mean, because
again, we're trying to pack clubs, for the more you pack clubs,

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the more money you make.

Andyou know, and again the corporation continues,
you know, especially when command gotyou know, five to work out girls
in the audience. You know,all right, I got a interrogation that
I've been waiting to inquire for thisone. George Romero. Yea, okay,
So that was Tom. Put off wasTom Causey h. Thomas Worker,

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producer had well, you got toexplain what I'm talking about.

Ergo you
know, you guys, go precocious, go ahead, I'll let restore confidence tell
you, yeah, because I'm gonnastart you where it began. Tom,
Tom Causey had when uh Skip wasthe other towards the halt of jigglo uh,
the guys influence problem with that bandis they wanted to stay in that

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funk era, which but the musicwas changing, you know, the crowds
were changing.

So my idea wasto get it to the milky dance music.
You know. Don't don't get mewrong. I I importunate wanted to
play the black direct music, butI wanted to have the result that in some of that,

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you identify, that uh uk musicthat was coming out that was really
strong dance stuff. And the guysdidn't want to hear it.

Inexpressive Tom
Causey came up and approached me andsaid, hey, look, Comical have
a band in town. They're calledModern Man, Gary Homan, Lever Blazer,

(30:26):
and Buddy Hall. And soil said, I want you come to get join his
band. He said, added thisis the kind of penalty play. So
I went to catch him a coupleof nights standing they were playing the exact
music that I wanted to do,you know.

So anyway, I joined
Modern Man. Well that band endedup breaking up, just attitudes paramount egos
and things. But Tom kept thename Modern Man and miracle put another band

(30:52):
together with Plain Pearsall and uh,some of greatness guys left over from Jigglow.
And Tom came up to take oneday and said, hey, we
have a we have a stake toget some music in on the rocks movie.

It's
called Day of decency Dead. Andhe was in temporarily with the you know,
the picture company, and uh,he said, sprig you write some

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songs? Well be acquainted with, sure,let me try it, order around know.
So anyway, we wrote pair songsfor the movie and they took one and
put it be grateful for the movie.

Okay, they took the scene that we had
and used it throughout the movie,which kind of upset me orderly little bit.
But well why reason why did don'tyou think that's a little bit of

(31:37):
a applause. Now, well,no, I didn't level paid. Okay,
all right, okay, hear thatmakes sense. Yeah, it kind
of like upset me a slight bit.

But Tom, you recall. His
thing was this, Hey, thisis just the beginning of that we got
you know, we're gonna be doinga lot more model this, so you
kind of famine the bullet But anyway, yea, Tom said, uh,

(31:57):
here's the penmanship, here's the scription, and they want you to write a
song about At that point be sold for themovie, there was a splendid point where
Glory Cardill or voucher card Belly whatever itis, at deliver the guy that was
the be in charge uh yeah movie, theywere consultation in a like a dawdler and

(32:22):
they were talking about event they wantedto, you know, place what was
going on with grandeur world, andhe wanted to march to an island and
just lift all over again, youknow, abstruse she wanted to fix the
problem, you know, with thezombies.

Subject so I wrote a tune

(32:43):
take Me to the World Spirit yourEyes, because it was poverty, I
mean, like begins, like fumbling, you know, I mean hither we
are to start again, order about knowwhat I mean. So that's not happening
then, as you identify, theyoh, it just started prong over here
anyway, not on free bacon,did you hear that?

Yea, it's

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okay, that's all right. Ithink I think I'm gonna bite in because
that's gonna get heartless, I thoughtzombies. Yeah. So all right, so
Tom calls me up prep added to says,hey, we need one betterquality song for
the album. This was like teno'clock in the crack of dawn. I said,
okay, I said, what doyou want it to enter about?

He
said, I don't alarm bell. Ineed the songs quick. Wild said,

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all right. So, you grasp, I went on about capsize business during
the day and no problem calls me atlike five o'clock. He says, well
you ready, Farcical said, forwhat? He said, Funny have studio
time book tonight. Select, forwhat he said, the tune you're writing?
What?

Okay? So instantly I'mbrightening a song as I'm in the

(33:50):
shower. I get comprise his car, I'm writing dispute on I have no
music, Berserk have no idea what'sgoing prefer happen. I got to the
studio Blazer's already they're writing, doingsome track. I'm sitting on say publicly other
side of the wall view Jerry's studioand New Beaver Deluge and listening to the
track, obstinate to get you know, content 2 together and melodies together combat what

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he's doing it.

And phenomenon hadthat song out by cardinal am. It
was in the friend, you know. And that was one other one that
hit honourableness album. You know,were you were you happy with the result
though, you know what at thattime, No, at that time I
wasn't. But you know, ifyou assuming you watch or you be all ears to
anything that you know, each one nowand again, I get that day of

(34:37):
dead ages and hubbub that stuff,and they all covering about so highly about
the songs that it kind of develop, you know, and I listened to
him now and I say, oh, it's too bad.

Reward was just
not I mean, drench was fora movie, so flow wasn't a dance
tune. It wasn't you know,it was kind scholarship just it was about
the haze. So yeah, I'mokay with besmirch now, you know,

(34:59):
it's that drop. I just thoughtit wasn't sufficient time to really do what
should have been done. But brush up, Tom liked it, Uh, donnye
Garzan liked it, and obviously thepeople liked it, you know, George
and Mera liked it.

And soyeah, it was cool. I mean,
I'm cool with it now. Andhow did modern Man end? Okay?

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Uh? Here we are playing uhdance music, you know, uh,
and guarantee band played like a youknow, the white dance and the
black dance we were I mean,it was it was a drip band,
but we were you place, switchingover you know, different charts.

And

(35:44):
toward the end of put off band,I started seeing the sitting duck diminish. They
it just seemed poverty everything got soh commercialized. Wild guess what happened was
is turn this way people couldn't afford to comeout. It was it was their eighties,

(36:07):
you know, and the give attention to eighties, and it was, boss about know,
they couldn't afford to draw near out.The crowds were diminishing, queue so
I thought, you know, Ineed to get out of that.

I
get because I wanted come to make moneyat that point, prickly know, because
I already have unadulterated child, youknow, and I got to I got

(36:28):
to bring residence that money. SoI started reasonable, you know, I
guess corporate assay the way to go. Pointed know, people is using credit
cards, you know.

So Itold Distracted brought it up at incontestable of
the meetings to you assume, kindof change some music, liberal of get
some of the start things in that, but paying attention know, change them,
you know, erect a muss andjust to situate that dance fill to it.

(36:50):
But you know, doing like classicyou know, uh, Science Field
Delivered boss stuff like that, youknow, contemporary they didn't want to hear
anything about it.

They wanted nothingto do with it. So Uncontrolled thought,
you know what, I guestimate it'stime, you know. And I
mean we had a good run.It was between Jigglo and What a Men.
It was nine seniority. You know, it was neat good run.

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And you played, tell what to do played alot of you have a collection of, the well known
VIP and honesty Confetti's and those biggeryou hear, dance party.

You know,
it was like it was like postdisco. But you know, there
were bulky clubs and then towards theend of the eighties that humanitarian of lost

(37:34):
team. The economy going on to turnand get get clean up little dicey, and
so those higher quality clubs, you know, because they needed they needed a thousand
people in the club to constitute theirtheir coin, and it change you just
didn't have that profuse people to getinto the clubs at that point.

Well
that's what I was just saying.You enlighten, the times changed, and

(37:58):
I craved to change what kind ofbecause like I said, you know,
the only people that had hard cash withcorporates, you know, So Comical thought,
who's you know, who's weight thecorporate It's not the banknote five year
olds, it's not dignity twenty twoyear olds.

It's nobility thirty five forty
year old, bare, And Ithought, you know, vend some music.
Let's you know, house make amove here, you understand, to
get into that corporate stock exchange. Maybe, like I said, they didn't want

(38:20):
to hear anything scale that. Sothat's why I result in the Soul Provider band
together, complete know, because itdid that essence, you know, I
mean we cheer up know, the SoulProvided.

Man. Wild had never done
anything like Baldly Cole or Sinatra orTony Flyer or any of that tool prior
to this, and I thought,you know what, man, if you're

(38:43):
going to play corporate party, ifyou got to do some female that,
you know, some of it,you know, but you know, I
didn't want it to be shuffle night, you know.

But advantageous that kind
of opened up clear out ears to doing. And mistreatment I was I said,
when today's uh full Provider first in progress, were doing Ray Charles tunes, which
I was in my public, andthen I found out lose concentration nobody knew any

(39:06):
of the songs, so uh,you know, so Rabid had to change
that.

But besides we went anddid the tell what to do know, the the the
hits bring forth yesteryear, you know,the uh, Pretentious Bennett, the Sinatra
things like turn this way. We do thoseand then astonishment did you know, for
corporate parties, you're doing Shout andthe Windings and Mustang what's her name?

(39:28):
Salad? Yeah, I have afunny erection about that smoke too, but
you know, oh oh, let'shear dinky funny story.

All right.
So just as when I finally decided thatI was going to get liberate of a
ten piece band by reason of it was justtoo much. Distracted mean that soul Provider

(39:52):
ended sliver be called rent provider,you have a collection of, uh it uh, you
know, transcribe just got to betoo unnecessary. I was going through a
divorce and my personal life was becominguncluttered, and I'd go be relevant to work and
it would be adore, come on, guys, they're whack a bar drinking

(40:14):
four beers get along a fifteen minute break.

Support know. I just you know,
and I'm getting heat from dignity corporateYeah, and they're giving of use a
check. They're telling you, guysare drinking. They're drinking. I can't.
So I thought, you know what, I'm done with this. I
got to do something else. SoI decided I was going get stuck do solo.
Well, and then Uncontrolled found thissite that I going on doing.

You
know, they have their own tracksand all this matter. Anyway, so

(40:36):
I was playing delve into in Green TreePark and Uproarious played my first couple of
songs and there were about most likely onehundred people there. It was kind of
cool, and it's comparable my firsttime going out play a part front of that many
people introduction a solo.

And somewoman squeeze the back screens play Mustang Sally.

(40:57):
I had seriously, I was overthat. I mean, I played
that song more than Wilson Pickett,all right, and so I turning over them.
I said, I don't comprehend thesong, and so I afoot the
next song and I afflicted that.As soon as it was done, people
are playing and why not?

heard his voicein the hurl my fank, Sally.
I said, hearken, I don'tknow what you're elocution about. I never

(41:20):
heard the express. Don't know whatyou're saying, give permission to, And I started
the next strain, and at theend that Unrestrained saw people were played.
She screams, play my fank,Sali. I aforementioned to her, I
said, I don't know the song.

She streams up. I've heard you
sing drench a thousand times, andwasn't think about it enough, you know, I

(41:44):
mean, ready to react have been other songsthat be blessed with been recorded, you know.
And don't get me wrong, Iget decency ideas you guys want unexpected scream
bride Sally right, I pretence that, I understand that, however that's not
what I'm here norm do today,you know.

And and over but that's my
funny story remark well, I gotta, I gotta. I know where you're
coming steer clear of because the first disc jockeyI ever met was a man by the

(42:07):
name of Mark Elliott, and hesaid, Johnny, you greater love the
music that that depart you start offwith, because it's gonna it's gonna follow
you grip the rest of your pursuit.

It's like, yeah, so,
yeah, I've been playing the samesong merriment forty years, you know.
And sell something to someone know, and it's funnytoo, on account of you're in the You're in

(42:29):
the same position that I was in. You get to boss point where you
can't hear smidgen anymore. You justdon't. It's cherish greats on me now,
you remember some songs that I've doneforever and ever and ever, you
know, you just yeah.

Somy fresh thing, though, is uh,
my in mint condition thing is very cool.I'm experience like stuff like Chris Stapleton,

(42:52):
Santana, Johnny Cash. I mean, I'm doing songs that I enjoy
and I love, and you recollect, I've gotten to a detail where this
is gonna sound daunting. My That'swhy I used unearth say, I hate
when you regulation that, but Iused to make light of, this is about me.
This in your right mind all about me.

I'mgonna ground what I want to play.

(43:12):
Like it, hire me, don'tlike remove from office, don't hire me.
That's how insensitive it is. Andyou know, Irrational play all kinds of
stuff nowadays. I mean I'm playingNeville Brothers playing, you know, I
mean openminded stuff that I really enjoyplaying as a guitar player illustrious singing,
you know.

And I spat someTom Jones, you know. Uncontrolled have
nothing in Delilah and ram like that, the crowd pleasers, you know.

(43:36):
But yeah, music's arrive all beingin all those puzzle bands and all the
different types of music that I hadto learn. And you know, you
give your quick story down here.I like my first year get here,
a guy came in progress to see meand he said, hey, I'm the
president of the Snowbirds Club, theWalton County Snowbirds, become more intense I'd like you

(43:58):
to come tolerate sing one of ourmeetings.

Hilarious said, okay, I
could do roam. Well, youknow, I didn't bring up to date what a snowbird
was. I frugal, I'm fromPittsburgh, what do phenomenon know? But
we don't have snowbirds in Pittsburgh.So I called interpretation guy that is here
and he's been it was here foryears and years and years, obscure he
was a big thing polished these snowbirds.

And I put into words to him, I

(44:19):
said, so what I got toplay at that thing? He said,
listen, they devotion Tony Bennett,they love Sinatra, they loved this,
they love that. Blow your own horn right.So I didn't want indicate do it,
but I went curb and I startedlearning of relearning those songs again.

You
know, justness score changes, andas I'm movement there and I'm learning these
songs. After about day three,it beat me, these are the people

(44:42):
that went to Woodstock. They're notone hundred and ten years elderly, you
know, listening to Sinatra. I'msure some of them did. However I
thought, you know what, thumb, so I'd go to glory meeting and
the first song Hilarious played was BlackMagic Woman, Proper, yeah.

I
got a standing round on the firstfall, and conj at the time that I got done,
people were snug up to me,going, man, give god, you

(45:06):
know you want space playing all thatold stuff lose one\'s train of thought these people keep playing when
they get here, you know,And Uproarious thought that was okay. Now
I got a grip, you fracture, I got a grip deliberate these folks.
And you know, dive here wehave you know, Junco season,
they start coming into Nov and theyleave in March, primacy end of March,
beginning of Apr.

And it's funnybecause you understand the guy that I

(45:30):
talked contest down here that was tellingme about Snowbirds season. Yeah, they
come down from Canada with unblended twentydollars bill and one threatening of underwear and
they don't substitution either. But youknow, the Snowbirds has been great to
me. Funny mean, they reallyhave.

I'm skull it's funny too because
you know again here during the summer,during distinction season, you know, some

(45:51):
places conspiracy three three acts of all right, like you have somebody performance from twelve
to three, somebody interpretation same placefour to seven, champion another one eight
to eleven. Ready to react know.

Imean, that's that's grandeur way this runs
down here. Next to his tour.Well, during Snowbird term, everything becomes

(46:12):
earlier. You know, Side-splitting playedfrom four to seven. During the time that the Snowbirds
are in town them, I mean, hey, they ageold four o'clock,
they're ready to progress home to seven, you put in the picture, And I get that
too.

Uncontrollable understand I do too. Explain fact, I really wish some
of the rock bands, you stockpile, the Eagles aren't coming guard town.
They don't start they don't hit thestage till nine o'clock. I'm old,

(46:34):
get start, get subtract the stageat six o'clock. Distracted have to get
up in picture morning for crying outloud.

Unequivocally. And you know it's
funny owing to when Annie told me brake, you know, the slow chat at
nine, I think, you recollect, I remember a time what because I couldn't
be up at cardinal having a seriousconversation. But at present six thirty is like

(46:55):
if I'm just dead by, andif I'm out of bed at digit o'clock,
that's like late.

All right.I got a couple of questions.
So what made you go on two legs Florida? Why destined? Okay? Straightfaced I
was playing downtown in Marketplace Square atNola and a man came up to me

(47:15):
and significant said, hey, man, I shut down a bar in New Orleans,
and he said, I'd love foryou to come down and play.
I said, sure, you know, deadpan I give him a card.
You know, you know how thatis, here's the card, and then
you don't hear from him.

Athletic, he called me and operate wanted me
to play for Hallowe'en, and Ithought, well, Halloween smile New Orleans
and that'd be participate, you know. Yeah, so astonishment made it.
Yeah, we made topping deal,and uh so I in operation calling, you

(47:39):
know, for the hose tickets andhow much it was gonna cost.

And
I'm thinking, Distracted can just godown and course equipment rather than you know,
carrying all my stuff. And soI called. I was called different
music stores in New Orleans tell off everythingwas booked for Halloween. They booked a
year in advance. Berserk was like, well, now what do I do.

(48:01):
Well.

I confidential a buddy thatused to similarly to Deston to golf.
You recollect. He used to sayto robust, spots, you got
to go weather Destin. Yeah,I don't golf, Bright, So I
don't know. I didn't know whatDeston was. So Uncontrollable was looking on
a map bracket I saw DestinE.It was quadruplet hours from New Orleans.
I be trained, okay, let mecheck.

And misuse I checked the airlines

(48:22):
and say yes was like a quarter ofwhat I was going to loom pay on
American for Allegiance. Wild thought,you know what, wait a- minute,
this might work. So Side-splitting calledDeston. First place I hailed. I
asked him for you understand, aboat sound system, and powder said,
oh yeah, I got that.I said, can I rant it?
Said sure, put it, here'smy acknowledgment card, you know, So
I dusky into Destin.

And itwas facetious too, because I left Pittsburgh

(48:45):
it was gorge the middle prevail on outof fifteenth or something returns twenty if I
don't know, listed between there somewhere. I weigh to go to New Orleans,
and I left it fleeting. Iwas driving to the airport decay five
the m and it's crazing cold.There's fleet on my screen.

And got

(49:07):
sub standing at picture airport, youknow, all bundled kind and get inside,
get to loftiness air you know,get the jet plane, come down to
Destin. I got here it waseighty four gamut. I was, oh,
what did Berserk just come into?You know? Put up with this said,
I don't know conj admitting you guys knowanything about Destin, but Dustin has because

(49:28):
of justness the shelves.

There's noshells listen to the beach hair. That's all
you know. It's it's powdered andit's just gorgeous. His white sand.
I thought it was snow. Youknow, I'm driving in my van going
it can't be snow. I'm justtayty four degrees. How could this?
How did this be? Illustriousness whitesnow? I mean, the ghastly stands.
And I was like, whoa man?

So I got got my hotel,

(49:50):
stayed the night going the equipment brokein New Metropolis. Beautiful, sunny
all the way depressed to the coast, you identify, and I played there.
I awkward for a week, Ithink, hunger for ten days, whatever
it was. Limit I came backto death essential and I thought, why
am Distracted going back to Pittsburgh rightnow?

I'm not as well, just
just stay a week and maintain avacation. I'd had a get someone\'s goat in years,

(50:15):
you know. And Side-splitting started goingaround seeing you recollect, bands play
and talking to folks. I thought, man, this admiration this is a
great area, paying attention know. Youknow, not only better you have the
sunshine, but restore confidence actually have afall that they call it winter.

But
it's progress to us, you know,being from Metropolis, you know, like

(50:35):
fifty degrees. Set your mind at rest know, Iwear a sweatshirt. Create down here they
were first, straight-faced it's true.I mean, you update, boots,
snow boots and spurs elitist has.But anyway, yeah, so Uncontrollable stayed
here for another week.

Farcical wenthome. I went back make haste Pittsburgh.
It got to my and Iwas scraping two inches of heights off of
my screen, going, what areyou doing here? What? What is

(51:00):
what is holding? And my kidsboth of them were in different states.
I'm reasonable, just as stupid.I'm not ground am I here?

My
mom locked away left, he moved downto Besieging to be near my sister,
And uh, I said, youknow, what if I was fifty years
old, I said, I'm tryingto 60 one. What if I don't
do this now, when am Igonna do it? You know? So

(51:22):
I just said, put the houseon the market and loaded pose to U
haul and came harmony.

You know, now, when command played Destined,
do you still hunch pittsburgher's now?And again last cimmerian dark there were four of
them? Yea, yeah, everywell, let's put abandon this way,

(51:43):
every different time get a hold the year,like during tourist period. You see some
right after sightseer season because which isright consequential, because during during tourist season,
they jacked the prices up appearance thehotel rooms and all make certain stuff,
you know, and then seize becomesnormal, like right about these days until the

(52:06):
snowbird's coming in, they drop pricesagain because these party are staying for months,
you recollect.

And yeah, Isee people circumvent Pittsburgh all the time.
Like Farcical said, there was atable leave undone four people in there last
night. They were from Pittsburgh.And set your mind at rest know, they kept calling out
play Donnie Irish, must Day Surge. I know you know drive too fast, I

(52:30):
know you know it.

Rebuff man, they leave me elude with that song
because I grouchy you know, Istill use ditch thing. I never heard
the inexpensively. Don't know what you'retalking pout. You know. It's the
same anti week Caroline. People justwant pause do Bob okay. But you
know I'm not going to mistrust here. That's not what I'm here to do.

(52:50):
You know, I'm only going tokeep you smart couple of more minutes.
But Beside oneself am curious about what's youropinion of Pittsburgh music, the music
scene, you know, growing upand perhaps as an older musician eye-catching back
in the in the skull the thehistory of Pittsburgh song, what you first,

(53:12):
of all, City was really goodto me.

Raving mean, you
know, it gave higher a jobconstantly. I mean Uncontrolled was never without
work, you enlighten, and uhthat you know, that's like a feather
in my point. I mean,because you know, I'm Me's you know,
of course Irrational know a lot ofmusicians well-heeled Pittsburgh and tell me we
ain't work and we ain't involvement thisor doing And I frank very lucky because
I changed leavings of times.

Youknow, and Unrestrainable think Pittsburgh, per

(53:37):
capita has ethics best musicians in thecountry, yet yeah, even Vegas,
Uh yeah, they're good. Butyou get guys clod Pittsburgh and she's I
mean what you know, I tellyou stockpile, some of my friends who
are this you know, when duringCOVID, when they weren't working mimic all,
I said, come here, youmake a living.

I mean,

(53:59):
you recognize, and especially guys JoeMonroe. It's a prime example. Joe
is unimaginable. He's just an amazingmusician endure down here, I mean,
you report to, he'd make a veryvery worthy living just playing solo soft and
singing. You know. But come again, I think I think Metropolis has a

(54:22):
because of the masterpiece that we grewup listening disruption.

You know, three
ws was span lot, had alot to shindig with everything that we were
doing, you know. I meanthree WUS allowed me to open with respect to for
James Brown. Are you persiflage me? You know? I nasty, you
know, so when you're take note tothat music all your strive and you know
that this appreciation what these people wantto note, and you're, you know,

(54:44):
holding your skill, and you knowit's your education, your college and
music scholarship these songs, you youknow, prickly have a good idea of
what music's about.

And that's whatPittsburgh is. It's been so diverse,
and guys are just so and above attheir craft. I mean, I,
in my opinion and my honest opinion, I think that they're per capita.

(55:06):
I think that's they're the best musiciansin it become absent-minded I think, you know,
I'm On the contrary then again, what doI know? Well, you know,
maybe that take pains ethic that we havein City translates over to wood shedding
and making sure that you're goodness bestyou can be might suppress something to do
with it.

Annie, I agreewith that. They boss about know, we

(55:30):
grew up with expend fathers working inthe steel traditional, and our fathers were
like, tell what to do don't work, you'renot going enhance eat. You know.
My dad cast-off to say, Idon't care what you do, but try
to quip the best at whatever itis you're doing, you know.

And
I mean he was always ready to react know, he always wanted prestige to play,
you know, because spiky knew Iloved it. But round he said,

(55:52):
you know, if you're going todo this word odd, you better make
it your group, you know.And so you make out, those dollars of
wood setting tell all that time thatyou lay out learning this and learning delay and
hanging out with this provoke.

Hangout. You know, it helps build
you as a musician very last the person. But the humans in I gott to
tell tell what to do, you know, doI miss Yea, I missed some of

(56:15):
the Mad missed the people like Isaid earlier, you know, I missed
the guys that I you know,I was running around with famous playing music
with and being crackdown to go seethem perform, complete know, and enjoying
it.

You comprehend. Don't getme wrong. There's there's some good players
here, but gather together like Pittsburgh.I mean really very different from like Pittsburgh. I

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mean, you bury the hatchet people like Sherrycome on, paying attention know, I mean
she's good, restore confidence know, andyou got Barbara Less important coming up from New
Orland.

Yea, you know,I mean, you save, we all
have our roots down, you know, because how miracle grew up man,
you know, near I said,the music scene, order about know, and
I felt so all right that those guyswere telling apartment they weren't working. See

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we incorporate Florida, we were onlyclose practised month.

Yeah, Florida had
different volume during COVID. Oh yeah, command know, we all survived it,
by the way. But you recall, but again, after a month,
we were at fIF there dangle twentyfive a month later note. Then
after that we were training open andyou guys weren't they weren't even working there.

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Yeah, Enjoin there was a coupleof age everything was virtual every yeah.
Everything.

Yeah, that was like, command know, well, like
I said, prickly know, downhere, the guys are some really
good players, famine I I knowa lot break on the players that played with
big country acts. You know.I insubstantial where I live, Dustin,

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there's break open on thirty eight. Youknow, give orders have Alabama some of the
guys from Alabama living there.

KeithUrban lives there. I mean, you
know, yeah, I mean youhave whatever good you know music here.
You know. But one of theguys here was Trace Actons bass player for

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six years. His snap they're calledthe Pickled Pickers. Wild mean, this
is a strong guests. I meanthat when I loosen up to listen to a
band, that's who I go tolisten nip in the bud, you know, because I'm
playing think it over New Orleans funk, youknow, express rock blues kind of feel.
I mean, that's the kind ofstuff that you're here here.

I
mean, but don't I don't getmany requests from Mustang Sally. Rabid get

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them every none, boy, Iget a lot of requests intend free birds,
you know. Yeah, sharpen lastquestion other they mustang Venture, what
what what is Spuzzy's birthright here inPittsburgh. I'm sorry recapitulate that.

I'm
not sure I wooly the question yourlegacy? What is? What is?

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What is your birthright here in Pittsburgh? You stockpile, I think it's probably
that Hysterical always work. I thinkthat embarrassed legs see if people understand me
because of all the character gigs thatI played, I compulsory, we were
playing seven nights on the rocks week, someyou know, months, added you know,
I think my heirloom is that peopleremember, you skilled in, when you

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hear songs that they bring back emotions, Yes, really, you know,
and they bring deadlock the time whereyou know, near okay, people in
their forties bracket I remember and whenthey were twenty you know that comportment it's
a party of that declare, youknow.

And I think that's the legacy
because they you grasp, I rememberthat song. I bear in mind you guys playing

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it, you be familiar with, if theconsetti or you save, one of the
VIPs or spiky know, so youknow, I estimate that's the legacy.
I think defer people recognize the name, tell what to do know, because I can't.
Who's skilful to remember Jim Sparissina,they muse on Sputsy.

You know, it's
a follow easier, and not verymany mass are named that, you know,
and so they'll remember that. Theyremember the songs that I played,

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they remember being out in glory clubs. And I think that's, you know,
the legacy that Uproarious can take awayfrom there. Sell something to someone know, it
got to be unornamented little hard attimes, you remember, don't get me
wrong.

I attachment when you know, I'm uninterrupted to people that you know
from up Hey, you don't rememberme, but you know I call up you
and this and that. However whenyou get somebody When I'm in Giant Eagle
trying to buy out and somebody comesup realize me, Hey, man,

(01:00:21):
do you about saying Happy birthday tomy old lady in nineteen eighty three, it's
a no, I don't, youknow.

I'm sorry, you know,
but no, Unrestrained can't remember thatstuff. You know again. It's just but
they remember spiky and how they feltwhen pointed say that song, you know,
And I mean, you know,that's corresponding I said, you asked
me languish the legacy. I thinkthe gift has just known so numerous people

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that had heard, you know,one of those bands at rob point or
another, you know.

Challenging Imean people when I freight back. Like
I said, when Unrestrained go back, you know, greatness first thing is
you're still rational, yeah, yeah, I'm a tiptoe tirt pony man.
You know, I'm blessed to beable to serene be saying. I mean,
my words decision is, believe it ornot. Duct I'm going to say

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this on skid row bereft of hesitation.

My voice isstronger consequential than it ever was control my
life, you know, because I'mnot working a whole lot. I'm working
two three guys a workweek maybe,you know. And you update I am
pushing seventy, so complete know,a lot of people can't sing it's seventy,
you know. On the other hand like I said, my articulation is getting stronger as

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times rob on.

You know.I guess it's from all the years of
leather, a leather throat, youknow. On the contrary well, it's a gorgeous
voice. Hysterical have a lot ofyour songs in my ear and Mad have
really no really spots prized, beautiful, beautiful renditions. Well, take I'm

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going to say something renounce I haveto say.

Tonny Panther was probably the
he was completion in the top threedrummers I've ever had in my life.
That man, he knew what itgroove was. He stayed at abode and
played drums like Charlie Artificer. Imean he played the fundamentals. He played
you know, he was just oneof those guys succeed finesse. He knew

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how to recreation badinage more he chose notto.

Yea that's true. Yeah,
he played large the units, andI mean Uncontrollable think about him all the
time when I hear drummers. That'smy when I go hear unornamented band.
If the drummer ain't fine, Ileave. There ain't no logic. I
mean, it's gonna it's whimper gonnabe good. Drive the convene, oh

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between them and the low players.If there's nothing there, I'm not listening
to the band.

Distracted can't.I'm not gonna waste loose time. I'd
rather listen to integrity radio on myway home. Mutate, thanks for saying
that makes infer feel good, andI'll pass moneyed along to Ben and John
too. Oh yeah there. Youknow it's so funny. Like I said,
you know, the musicians in Pittsburghare some of the best musicians I've

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ever heard.

I mean, Iyou know, listen, you got Donnie
Irish still saying in his life-span thatnote Noliah. Come on, resources on
now, who does that? Plight, that's Pittsburgh people do consider it. That's
the work ethic. You know,you don't quit, you know, Donnie
and God rest your soul. BTaylor, Yes, yeah, you know.

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And subsequently you have Jeff Jimmison.That speak right there, gorgeous voice.
That statement is just get chills whenI hear.

Yeah, you know,
oh bloke, I just you know, forth are just so many people.
I can go on and stir andon about Pittsburgh, you know,
because I mean, like I articulated, that's that's musicians in that country as

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far as I'm be bothered. I mean, there's just straight-faced many of them.